January 13, 2022
Planning Commission meeting

Public Comments

42 Comments
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Joanna
37932
1-D-22-UR
Joanna (37932), January 2, 2022 at 2:33 PM
Again, what are you thinking? This area has become ugly. An area of ugly houses stacked on top of each other for miles and miles. Where are our parks? Green spaces? Where is our library and post office? Where is our quality of life? We were promised parks years ago during all those "town hall meetings". What a joke. I won't mention traffic or schools. Everyone knows that Hardin Valley = overcrowded schools and traffic. It's what we're known for. Stop paving everything and think about what you are doing by approving these terrible subdivisions. The yards aren't even big enough for a single tree. Not. One. Single. Tree. I feel sorry for people who think that they have no choice but to live in Hardin Valley "because of the schools". They are being sold a lie. I think Hardin Valley should come with a warning: Choose Hardin Valley! What we have: Traffic! Severely overcrowded schools! Traffic! No parks! No library! No green space whatsoever! No trees! Traffic! You will spend most of your time in your car driving someplace else for everything! Houses inches from each other! So many portable classrooms they could be a subdivision on their own! What we don't have: pretty much everything you need for a good quality of life. This will be your legacy.
Daniel
37932
1-SB-22-C
Daniel (37932), January 4, 2022 at 9:23 PM
From a concerned Massey Creek Neighbor:
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https://agenda.knoxplanning.org/attachments/20220104212351.pdf
Daniel
37932
1-G-22-UR
Daniel (37932), January 4, 2022 at 9:25 PM
From a concerned Massey Creek Neighbor:
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https://agenda.knoxplanning.org/attachments/20220104212504.pdf
Paige
37932
1-SB-22-C
Paige (37932), January 4, 2022 at 9:42 PM
A note from a Massey Creek Neighbor:
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https://agenda.knoxplanning.org/attachments/20220104214231.pdf
Paige
37932
1-G-22-UR
Paige (37932), January 4, 2022 at 9:44 PM
A note from a Massey Creek Neighbor:
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https://agenda.knoxplanning.org/attachments/20220104214421.pdf
Mackenzie
37932
1-SB-22-C
Mackenzie (37932), January 5, 2022 at 11:40 AM
I live in the Massey Creek Subdivision off of Mission Hill Lane. I am contacting you in regards to the plan for the properties being built south of our subdivision. The houses that will have exits off of Mission Hill Lane are not a good idea. The site line for this road is very poor. Already, with no houses on this road, the site line is poor. Adding exits/entrances to this road will add to the traffic coming in and out of this road. Also, the traffic leaving Mission Hill lane to go out to Hardin Valley Rd will be increased. I think there needs to be a different entrance for these homes.
Mackenzie
37932
1-G-22-UR
Mackenzie (37932), January 5, 2022 at 11:46 AM
Hardin Valley, especially the growing and expanding western area, does not have the infrastructure to support the residents currently living here. This area is so congested and adding more housing developments, without fixing the current roads will only add to the problem. The area off of Massey Creek is becoming more congested, especially with the development across the street, by Marietta Church Road. The safety of the current residents will continue to worsen if the infrastructure is not rectified! Better roads need to be built, sidewalks need to be added (all along Hardin Valley Road), and better road signs need to allow for the growing traffic. The development off Mission Hill Lane needs to be halted, as do all Hardin Valley plans, until this area is safer to drive on.
Heather
37932
1-SB-22-C
Heather (37932), January 5, 2022 at 1:05 PM
Hardin Valley has seen outrageously fast growth and does not currently provide the adequate infrastructure to support the growth. We do not have adequate fire, rescue or police support. Outside of these grossly negligent areas, the Mission Hill road boulevard entrance to Massey Creek is a dangerous place to add five driveway access points. Not only does it detract from the original neighborhood landscape it also presents a danger due to the blind hill as you exit down to Hardin Valley Road. It’s an unsafe, unnecessary ask. I’m all for community growth and for builders etc…. To earn a living, however, this absurd growth needs to slow until proper infrastructure can be put in place. As commissioners, we tax payers count on you to do what’s in the best interest of the communities you serve. Passing this request is not in the best interest of the Massey Creek neighborhood nor the Hardin Valley community.
Tobie
37932
1-SB-22-C
Tobie (37932), January 5, 2022 at 10:01 PM
Please see attached document.
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https://agenda.knoxplanning.org/attachments/20220105220152.pdf
Dennis
37932
1-SA-22-C
Dennis (37932), January 9, 2022 at 6:25 PM
As a resident near Couch Mill Road, I am deeply concerned about a 400 unit subdivision being proposed on 132 acres off of Couch Mill Road near Hardin Valley Road. The land is currently zoned as agricultural. Constructing 400 houses on approximately 100 acres of the current farmland would be very detrimental to our rural community. There are too many subdivisions being erected in Hardin Valley as it is. Couch Mill Road and Steele Road are simply way too narrow to accommodate this exponential increase in traffic if this subdivision were to be constructed. The roads are too narrow even with the flow of traffic we already have. This also will greatly increase the strain on our local schools Hardin Valley Elementary, Middle and Academy which are already overflowing with the existing population they serve. The subdivision would result in exceeding the Knox County intersection standard which is currently 3000. As a resident of the community this proposed subdivision would negatively impact, I urge you to vote NO on the proposal. This subdivision would destroy our lovely rural community and endanger lives with increased traffic on our already small roads. Please OPPOSE this.
Paul
37932
1-G-22-UR
Paul (37932), January 10, 2022 at 2:53 AM
The update to this proposal will cause run off issues, devalue current property owners in Massey Creek and is not in the best interest of the public. The Mission Hill entrance to Massey Creek should be unaltered as it is consistent with nearly all subdivisions in Hardin Valley in having a landscaped entrance for the neighborhood. EVERY neighborhood off HV road has this defining characteristic. The entrance acts as a park and green space for Massey Creek residents to walk and ride bikes. The extra 5 houses will take that leisure away and have no connection to any neighborhood. It’s the equivalent of dumping houses on green space. The 2 retention ponds already approved should remain to help with the water retention. Your group plans to put nearly 100 homes on adjoining land that currently helps with retaining water in the area. The greed of a voting member purchasing this land and amending the project to add an additional 6-10 homes and devalue Massey Creek subdivision is the latest example why HV residents have zero faith our voices are ever heard. Your project already has 18 homes approved and defacing Missiin Hill is unnecessary.
Gerda
37932
1-SB-22-C
Gerda (37932), January 10, 2022 at 9:24 AM
I would like to implore the MPC to refrain from approving any more subdivisions in the Hardin Valley area especially around Mission Hill Rd until the traffic and school problems are addressed and fixed. It is starting to become a nightmare to live in this area. Traffic around school drop off and pick up times is absolutely atrosious. This does not include all the traffic that is going to be added as a result of the current subdivisions being built. Furthermore, Massey Creek Subdivision HOA paid for the access road and is paying for the upkeep and maintenance of said road and grounds. I am opposed to any other subdivisions being able to use Mission Hill Lane as an access to their subdivision. If approved, their access road should come off of Hardin Valley Rd and Mission Hill Ln. Please reconsider the approval of any more subdivisions in this area for the forseeable future.
Gerda
37932
1-G-22-UR
Gerda (37932), January 10, 2022 at 9:27 AM
Please see my comments for case 1-SB-C-22.
Ellen
37932
1-SB-22-C
Ellen (37932), January 10, 2022 at 9:52 AM
Attached
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https://agenda.knoxplanning.org/attachments/20220110095234.pdf
Jaime
37932
1-SB-22-C
Jaime (37932), January 10, 2022 at 10:38 AM
I am writing in opposition to the 5 additional homes proposed off of Mission Hill Lane. These driveways will cause a hazard on Mission Hill. There is nothing hindering these homeowners from parking cars along Mission Hill at any time. With the addition of only a small strip of land (2.85 acres per your records) being added to this plot the builder is adding 8 additional lots. It seems as though there is more of a need to jam pack as many homes as possible into this space rather than building to fit the area and conserve the beauty of HV. If you look at notes from the original approval your board spoke extensively about having 18 lots instead of 17 due to the placement of the homes to HV road. With having already approved the original 18 lots (which came with great opposition from the nearby residents) please do not continue to add to this issue by approving these additional homes with driveways off of Mission Hill. There is also another property you have already approved with townhomes that will be feeding into Mission Hill from the top of the hill. This additional approval would be harmful not only to the residents of Massey Creek, but to our property values as well. The Blvd entrance is one of the reasons EVERY homeowner in Massey Creek chose this location to live. I as well as many of the residents plead with you not to allow these additional driveways off Mission Hill.
Michele
37932
1-SB-22-C
Michele (37932), January 10, 2022 at 11:42 AM
I oppose the addition of additional subdivisions off of Mission Hill lane. This will create overcrowding and traffic. We do not want to lose the serenity and beauty of open land in Hardin Valley
Michele
37932
1-SB-22-C
Michele (37932), January 10, 2022 at 11:42 AM
I oppose the addition of additional subdivisions off of Mission Hill lane. This will create overcrowding and traffic. We do not want to lose the serenity and beauty of open land in Hardin Valley
Mark
37932
1-SB-22-C
Mark (37932), January 10, 2022 at 1:37 PM
The longer section of Mission Hill is a Blvd entrance into Massey Creek and is not designed for individual lot access. Doing so would be a hazard with cars having to turn around within the Blvd to enter any attached lots. In addition the lanes on either side of the grass divider are not wide enough for what would surely turn into street parking by any added lots. The developer should build an entrance to the new subdivision with a bridge over the creek, just as Hunter did in developing Massey Creek. The design should be what is best of existing and future homeowners, and not the developer. We need consistent and quality developments.
Mark
37932
1-SB-22-C
Mark (37932), January 10, 2022 at 2:42 PM
THIS >>>>>>>> (as noted by Paul) "The Mission Hill entrance to Massey Creek should be unaltered as it is consistent with nearly all subdivisions in Hardin Valley in having a landscaped entrance for the neighborhood. EVERY neighborhood off HV road has this defining characteristic. The entrance acts as a park and green space for Massey Creek residents to walk and ride bikes."
Mark
37932
1-SB-22-C
Mark (37932), January 10, 2022 at 3:21 PM
Reference photo of Boulevard entrance into Massey Creek

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https://agenda.knoxplanning.org/attachments/20220110152144.pdf
Pamela
37932
1-SB-22-C
Pamela (37932), January 10, 2022 at 4:05 PM
See attached file for comment.
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https://agenda.knoxplanning.org/attachments/20220110160530.pdf
Leslie
37932
1-G-22-UR
Leslie (37932), January 10, 2022 at 4:18 PM
I oppose the addition of additional subdivisions off of Mission Hill lane. This will create overcrowding and traffic. I have concerns about lot number 22,23,24,25, and 26 as to how they will be accessed. this is a divided drive with limited access. This means that many of these lots will do a u turn in the middle of the drive to access their property. This is already a dangerous choke point due the volume of traffic coming off Hardin valley. Additionally where will there guest park. The size of the lots does not allow for long driveways nor oversized driveways, so that means they will park in the street. Again, making this area more dangerous. We purchased in Massey Creek in February of 2021 and detracting from the entrance with additional access for a poorly planned subdivision will hurt the property values in the Massey Creek neighborhood. Additionally the loss of green space provided will also detract from the home values. I feel if this is approved the commission is more concerned about the additional tax revenue generated, than actually planning and forecasting for green space and traffic flow.
Leslie
37932
1-SB-22-C
Leslie (37932), January 10, 2022 at 4:35 PM
I am writing in opposition to the 5 additional homes proposed off of Mission Hill Lane. These driveways will cause a hazard on Mission Hill. There is nothing hindering these homeowners from parking cars along I am writing in opposition to the 5 additional homes proposed off of Mission Hill Lane. These driveways will cause a hazard on Mission Hill. There is nothing hindering these homeowners from parking cars along Mission Hill at any time. Additionally on trash days the cans will take up 3-6 feet of an already choked down roadway. This is a question of safety versus 5 additional tax bases for an already over planned and growing too fast community. As it stands now, the driveways will be in front of the landscaped medians. The only way for the residents to access their driveways safely would be for them to do a u-turn at the end of all medians and circle back around to make a right into their driveway. This not only seems like an unfeasible way to flow traffic it also proposes additional concern of safety as those exiting down Mission Hill now must worry about oncoming traffic doing u-turns to access these driveways. We ask for you to act now on our behalf of the current residents and their concerns for the safety of our community and the future values of our properies.
Vonna
37932
1-SB-22-C
Vonna (37932), January 10, 2022 at 8:47 PM
I strongly urge the replanning of lots 22-26 that show an entrance from Mission Hill Lane. I highly encourage that the Knox County Planning Committee seek advise and review of the current proposal by the Knox Regional Transportation Planning Organization, The East Tennessee Development District, The Knoxville Fire Chief and The Knox County Sheriff as this current proposal puts residents of Massey Creek in extreme danger. Five separate entrances in the location shown on the proposal will potentially and most likely block the exit capabilities for not only Massey Creek residents but also emergency vehicles. The addition of these five additional entrances will also put pedestrians at risk while walking, biking and driving due to limited space for lots 22-26 to enter and exit from Mission Hill Lane.
Wanda
37932
1-SB-22-C
Wanda (37932), January 11, 2022 at 1:31 PM
I'm a concerned resident in Massey Creek writing in opposition to the 5 additional homes and entry ways connecting to Mission Hill. You are aware of the heavy traffic and overcrowded school problems that plaque Hardin Valley. Yet, it seems on one is listening. Please hear us. Paul, Mark, Jamie, and MacKenzie addressed safety and aesthetic concerns like water retention/run-off, U-turn entry nightmares, trash cans littering the main entrance, parked cars on the street that is Massey Creek residents only was in and out. I hadn't thought of these things-have you? These are valid concerns. I want to tell you why I made Massey Creek my home and Mission Hill my address. Look at the picture that Mark submitted. What a beautiful entrance! Just the right amount of adornment - so serene, so green, so open, so quiet. I'll be honest. I was afraid to tackle that hill when walking my dog at first. However, in time it became my route of choice. It just says peaceful. Even with Hardin Valley Road just at the bottom of the hill it seems like it's so far away from the maddening crowd. When I read Paul's comment that this approval will be "equivalent to dumping houses on green space" it struck a chord. How sad to take away that beauty. I feel like many of my neighbors that your decisions seem to benefit the developer and not the existing homeowners. Don't let this happen again. Please hear us this time.
Thomas
37932
1-SB-22-C
Thomas (37932), January 11, 2022 at 1:45 PM
See attached pdf
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https://agenda.knoxplanning.org/attachments/20220111134546.pdf
Tanya
37932
1-SB-22-C
Tanya (37932), January 11, 2022 at 9:26 PM
I am extremely concerned about the proposed changes to allow five homes to access their driveway via Mission Hill. Approval of this plan could cause hazardous traffic situations and safety concerns for Massey Creek Residents. Mission Hill is divided by a landscaped median that will be located opposite the driveway entrances. With driveways accessing Mission Hill, these homeowners or their guests could park on the street or put their trash cans in the road, which could cause issues not only with Massey Creek residents exiting or entering the neighborhood but also could impact emergency vehicles, service vehicles, and school buses accessing our neighborhood. Due to the driveway locations, the homeowners would have to make a u-turn on Mission Hill to access their driveway, which is also a traffic hazard with cars coming down the hill exiting Massey Creek. This is also a serious concern for pedestrian safety since many residents walk and bike this road and there are no sidewalks on Mission Hill. Our neighborhood is strongly opposed to this plan, and we ask that the Knox County Planning Commission members reject this proposal of construction of the five homes on Mission Hill Lane with driveway access via Mission Hill Lane. Thank you for your consideration.
Brian
37932
1-SB-22-C
Brian (37932), January 12, 2022 at 7:16 AM


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https://agenda.knoxplanning.org/attachments/20220112071636.pdf
Jennifer
37932
1-SB-22-C
Jennifer (37932), January 12, 2022 at 9:37 AM
I am writing in opposition to the five specific lots proposed to have access from Mission Hill Lane. This part is already hazardous as it is difficult to see as you are coming down the street. There are a lot of kids in our neighborhood who are out and about throughout the neighborhood as well as other pedestrians, and we need to ensure that our area is as safe as possible. There is already overcrowding in Hardin Valley that is making the entire area congested and more dangerous. With driveways accessing Mission Hill, these homeowners or their guests could park on the street or put their trash cans in the road, which could cause issues not only with Massey Creek residents exiting or entering the neighborhood but also could impact emergency vehicles, service vehicles, and school buses accessing our neighborhood. Due to the driveway locations, the homeowners would have to make a u-turn on Mission Hill to access their driveway, which is also a traffic hazard with cars coming down the hill exiting Massey Creek. Please do not approve this on top of an already congested area.
Fred
37932
1-SB-22-C
Fred (37932), January 12, 2022 at 9:57 AM
Approving this request as-is based on the recommendations included would endanger existing residents, increase traffic congestion and degrade property values in the area. Please deny the request for access of lots 22-26 to Mission Hill Lane, deny the request for reducing the distance between Road A and Mission Hill Lane, and complete a traffic study analyzing the impacts to the Marietta Church Road and Hardin Valley Road intersection. More information is included in the attached.
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https://agenda.knoxplanning.org/attachments/20220112095757.pdf
Fred
37932
1-SB-22-C
Fred (37932), January 12, 2022 at 10:00 AM
Approving this request as-is based on the recommendations included would endanger existing residents, increase traffic congestion and degrade property values in the area. Please deny the request for access of Lots 22-26 to Mission Hill Lane, deny the request for reducing the distance between Road A and Mission Hill Lane. More information is included in the attached.
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https://agenda.knoxplanning.org/attachments/20220112100010.pdf
Caroline
37932
1-SB-22-C
Caroline (37932), January 12, 2022 at 10:31 AM
I am firmly against the proposal to allow 5 driveways off of Mission Hill. This is meant to be an boulevard entrance to Massey Creek only, and not a dangerous cluster of inappropriate incoming and exciting traffic. Not only is this a safety hazard, it would be a horrid aesthetic display and emotionally upsetting to pass every day. Please use good judgment and consider the intent of the road when built.
Charlie
37932
1-SB-22-C
Charlie (37932), January 12, 2022 at 10:37 AM
Please see the attachment. Having 4 kids who roam the neighborhood, this is a terrible idea and shouldn't be allowed.
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https://agenda.knoxplanning.org/attachments/20220112103735.pdf
Tina
37932
1-SB-22-C
Tina (37932), January 12, 2022 at 10:52 AM
Please see the attached.
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https://agenda.knoxplanning.org/attachments/20220112105225.pdf
Sherry
37932
1-SB-22-C
Sherry (37932), January 12, 2022 at 11:34 AM
I am writing to express opposition to the addition of five driveways/homes on Mission Hill Lane in this proposal. As a Massey Creek home owner and resident on Mission Hill Lane, I witness the traffic in and out of the neighborhood and any thought to adding these additional access point is incredibly dangerous for everyone based on their location, will detract and devalue current resident's property and is simply illogical. Mission Hill Lane is not designed for such as additional and will create significant traffic hazards if granted as residents will have to make u-turns in the middle of the boulevard on a blind hill. The proposal of the detention pond along side the bridge would be unsightly and health issue (mosquito attraction) for current residents of Massey Creek as our neighborhood was designed for walking on Mission Hill Lane. Our neighborhood has a well maintained, landscaped entrance ( as do the majority of neighborhoods in Hardin Valley); so this would again detract/devalue current properties. Please do not allow this proposal to move forward as there are no logical reasons to do so; on those to attempt to pack as many houses as possible on a small remnant of land.
Mike
37932
1-SB-22-C
Mike (37932), January 12, 2022 at 12:20 PM
I am opposed to adding 5 new drive ways to connect with Mission Hill. The traffic on Hardin Valley is already bad and going to become heavier with the new developments. With the new developments being approved based on variances to the spacing guidelines in place, more traffic coming out of that is one is going to amplify the effect and more importantly the risks associated with pulling into a heavier trafficked road with limited visibility and spacing between adjacent access roads.
Matthew
37932
1-G-22-UR
Matthew (37932), January 12, 2022 at 1:06 PM
The Massey Creek HOA opposes this type of development. Please deny this request, especially lots 22-26 and the detention pond placement. See attached statement including photos of Mission Hill Ln. If this was not Scott Smith’s request, these variances and additions would not be approved. Do the right thing and vote against this money grabbing development.
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https://agenda.knoxplanning.org/attachments/20220112130607.pdf
Michael
37932
1-SB-22-C
Michael (37932), January 12, 2022 at 1:19 PM
please see attached pdf
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https://agenda.knoxplanning.org/attachments/20220112131918.pdf
Kory
37932
1-SB-22-C
Kory (37932), January 12, 2022 at 2:07 PM
As so many of my Massey Creek neighbors have already commented, the proposed plan is a horrible idea. Having the 5 driveways directly on Mission Hill Lane will be unsafe for everyone involved. My family is very against the proposed plan and strongly hopes that the planning board does not approve it.
Wanda
37932
1-SB-22-C
Wanda (37932), January 12, 2022 at 5:08 PM
Look, I know this is after the deadline but I have just learned some disturbing information. I have just learned that the person requesting these variances is an actual member of the KPC???? What? How can that be?!? I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer but this is a blatantly obvious a conflict of interest. Even through Mr. Smith probably can't vote on this proposal you can't tell me he doesn't have influence over those that will vote!! This stinks and stinks bad. I'm flabbergasted at the audacity Mr. Smith is demonstrating - changing his request to benefit him and putting his KPC "buddies'" ethics in question. Wow! I don't know how to fully process this and to understand how this scenario could exist. It's like pitting the existing homeowners against a Goliath. We, as homeowners who value our safety and our property values, are not making an irrational request when we ask that you deny this recently changed request of Mr. Smith. Please hear us.
Laura
37932
1-SB-22-C
Laura (37932), January 13, 2022 at 12:32 PM
This proposal should not be approved based on the concerns in the attachment.
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https://agenda.knoxplanning.org/attachments/20220113123232.pdf
Darrin
37932
1-E-22-UR
Darrin (37932), January 13, 2022 at 12:45 PM
I will not be able to make the meeting and therefore writing this comment in its place. I have multiple concerns with this project.  Everett road is not built to handle increased traffic volumes, especially with the amount of new traffic that will be coming from an apartment complex. Additionally, Watt Road exit is a truckers exit. The exit itself will not be able the additional cars with the tucks. The roads at the intersection of Watt Rd. And Everett Rd. with the gas station at the corner will not be able to handle the additional cars with the trucks. That intersection will be susceptible to frequent wrecks and back ups.  An apartment complex should never be placed that closely to a neighborhood. It is right across the street and will disrupt the community fee of the neighborhood with increased sound and activity.  Getting rid of that wooded area will clear out the natural sound block from the interstate and cause the adjacent neighborhood to constantly hear interstate traffic. This will absolutely disturb the pleasantry of the community. This project development is compromising the investment that many people have made in this neighborhood. The interstate volume itself, without the help of tree to decrease the volume, has potential to disrupt the value of a community with 400K plus houses in it.  It is really disappointing to think it would be feasible to place an apartment complex across the street from an upscale neighborhood.  This is almost non-existent. I highly oppose the proposed project secondary to road conditions, traffic conditions, person safety driving on the road, and negative impact it will have on the adjacent neighborhood. Road paving or privacy trees will not alleviate these issues. This small area does not have the bandwidth to handle this size of a project!