1-A-23-UR Michael (37920), January 2, 2023 at 3:53 PM
I live in the neighborhood that would be right next to this shorting range and I have 3 small children. 1 being a newborn. The constant boom of large caliber rifles will be a detriment to their sense of safety and well-being. It will also affect the peace and quiet of our neighborhood. My other concern will be our property value. With the constant boom from firearms going off that will also affect my resale value. Has anyone talked about the potential of compensation due to that change.
Sec. 5-4. Loud noise.
(a) No person shall create, maintain, assist or participate in the creation of a loud or raucous noise likely to disturb the public peace or quiet.
1-A-23-UR Emily (37920), January 2, 2023 at 4:12 PM
While I do not live without 2 miles of where the shooting range is planning to become, I do have friends who live within one mile and visit them often. Please consider not building a shooting range so close to residential areas. I would not want to hear shooting constantly, especially when guests are over or when my children are napping during the day or when we are trying to enjoy our back yard. This also decreases property value and anyone home buyer would find it a huge negative to constantly be hearing gunshots from the home. Please do the right thing, and don’t allow this to be built here. Thank you!
1-A-23-UR Jennifer (37920), January 2, 2023 at 4:36 PM
An outdoor gun range in a heavy residential area violates the rights of home owners and decreases our property value.
In addition this land is owned by Jordan Mollenhour of the Lucky Gunner. The CEO of Lucky Gunner, Jake Felde, signed the petition. This land will NOT be used for private shooting but will undoubtedly be used for commercial purposes. (Ammo testing, supplier demonstrations, etc). This WILL be used for business.
This type of establishment has no placement on our peaceful side of the county.
1-A-23-UR Robert (37920), January 2, 2023 at 5:28 PM
We do not want a gun range next to our property that we have owned for 30 years. We have had livestock in past years and planning to add more this spring. We can hear the gun shots from our property now when they are there shooting at the range site. And we did not buy this property to listen to a bunch of guns going off all the time. We bought for our privacy to raise our family and this will cause nothing but trouble in the area. Also, with our livestock...the gunshots could consistently and easily cause loss of livestock due to "spooking" the livestock. I am really concerned about the affect on livestock. If they want to build an indoor, sound proof firing range - that would be fine. Then surrounding areas will not have to listen to the gunfire hours at a time. Please consider carefully how much this will affect so many residential environments. We do not want a firing range interrupting the peace and quiet we have enjoyed and plan to enjoy for years to come. This would be a major issue.
1-A-23-UR Judy (37920), January 2, 2023 at 10:08 PM
I have 2 dogs that gun shots terrified, thunder, fireworks,I have to give them medication to try and calm them, I would have to keep them drugged , this would be so traumatized please do not let this become a shooting range.i do not want my babies become dependent on drugs.please please don't let this happen.thank you, Judy Wilson
1-A-23-UR Tracie (37920), January 3, 2023 at 9:27 AM
Please don't allow this in a residential area. Constant shooting is unnerving especially in this day. To watch the news and see shootings all over the country is very stressful and discouraging. Then to go outside and try to enjoy our backyard. Only to hear gunshots a mile away will be unnerving to say the least.
1-A-23-UR Jade (37920), January 3, 2023 at 5:18 PM
This shooting range is highly opposed by everyone in the area. It is extremely unnecessary and will affect everyone in the area negatively. There are pets, elderly, special needs individuals, as well as veterans and peoples affected by ptsd that will all be harmed by the sound of gunshots. There is no pros to having it and it doesn’t need to be in our areas. I myself have autism and am highly affected and harmed by loud noises. I also have many pets that are terrified of even fireworks so I know gunshots will terrify them. This is also detrimental to wildlife as well. Nobody wants to hear guns being shot off when we have all lived in this area for many years. This will also affect individuals that may be wanting to sell their homes or properties because nobody is going to move near a shooting range. Please do not allow this to happen in our quiet neighborhood communities.
1-A-23-UR Curtis (37920), January 3, 2023 at 6:13 PM
Our American freedom provides the right to bear arms and hobby firearms. However, when firearms are blasted in close range of many peaceful neighborhoods, it disrupts our peace and also takes away other people’s freedom. The freedom to enjoy their homes without the invasive sound of gun shots at any given time of the day. There are pets and people who suffer from PTSD & anxieties from the sound of gun shots. Placing a full fledged shooting range within the vicinity of private residences is a very inconsiderate and does not display patriotism in our nation. Shooting ranges are meant to be in a far off distance or in a sound proof indoor facility. Whomever is behind the planning of this facility has no consideration of others and would not appreciate gun blast echoing behind their senior family, children and pets. This just isn’t a smart plan and shows how ignorant and selfish some gun fanatics can be.
1-A-23-UR Tammy (37920), January 3, 2023 at 11:07 PM
I do not wish to speak, but I wish to be heard. Let it be known that my husband and I, Stan and Tammy Lueders are the owners of 7213 Sunset Ridge Lane property and have begun to build a home on this property under the known fact it is a peaceful and quiet residential area. We want to sit on our front porch and enjoy the quiet neighborhood. We do not want to hear any constant gunfire or explosives near our home or within 2 miles of our home. My husband sleeps during the day and works night shift. He will not be able to rest with this type of disruption in our community. A residential area MUST be fully protected from a higher noise level. It was stated as such when advertised. We, as a community, expect you to protect our properties.
1-A-23-UR Jerri (37920), January 4, 2023 at 11:14 AM
I live within a mile of the proposed driving range. We have small children in our home and this would definitely be very disruptive. It would be a big issue for naptime and and even bigger issue for playing outside. I would not feel safe playing outside with the children, or even sitting on my front porch, with the sound of gunshots all day. Please do not all this to happen. Thank you.
1-A-23-UR Kevin (37918), January 4, 2023 at 11:22 AM
An outdoor shooting range introduces substantial noise pollution into our county's environment. The impact on neighboring residents is not mitigated by vegetation or topography. Gunfire travels, and the Use on Review application proposes no mitigations to this.
As an example: I live 13,500 feet from the Sheriff's office shooting range. When they are training out there, I can clearly hear the gunfire inside my residence, with windows/doors closed.
An outdoor shooting range will significantly injure the value of adjacent property due to unmitigated noise and does not meet the standard set forth in 4.10.17.
1-A-23-UR Jeanna (37920), January 5, 2023 at 8:51 AM
I am a longtime resident of the New Hopewell community. When hearing what is being proposed at the French Rd property site. I assume that no one has taken in consideration the quiet community and also in a short distance two churches with two graveyards behind them that is very close to this property site. We the people of this area do not want such a thing of disturbance of a shooting range as this should be taken in full consideration of the history of this community and this type of proposed business would not do anything but degrade or area.
1-A-23-UR Alma (37920), January 5, 2023 at 3:10 PM
This area of Knox County is a very residential area. The last thing we need is a shooting range. We live less than a mile from the proposed project. Sitting outside on our porch would be nearly impossible with the noise that would be created from this project. We bought our house here because it was a peaceful area. I cannot image hearing guns fire all day long. Please do not approve this project for the sake of all the people that live in Thai are
1-A-23-UR Janice (37920), January 5, 2023 at 3:32 PM
I would like to recommend the Commission delay voting on this request for a shooting range on this property. The proposal provides no details such as hours / days of operation. No noise abatement plan and no information on safety and security precautions.
Overall I oppose the idea of a shooting range in residential areas. There are numerous residential properties in this area and additional approved residential property development on John Sevier Hyw. and French Road area. South Knoxville area is sited for residential growth and a shooting range is generally not a draw for residential growth. The corridor of John Sevier Hyw. is already inundated with heavy industrial and the quarry. The blasting from the quarry creates enough noise with blasting and machinery. It causes our homes to shake so severely that pictures and other items on the wall are knocked crooked or literally shaken from the walls. A shooting range will causes constant noise and concern for safety. Give this area of residential homes a break. Go somewhere else removed from residential to play with guns.
1-A-23-UR Frankie (37920), January 5, 2023 at 4:06 PM
I live less than a mile away and there is an elementary school less than half a mile away. This would impact peace and quiet in our neighborhoods as well as property values. My home is down hill from the proposed area and sound would echo and carry a lot further than 2 miles.
This would disrupt the school day for the children in New Hopewell Elementary and they already have enough distractions/disruptions as it is.
If there is a chance that the community gets to vote on this, I will gladly vote NO.
1-A-23-UR Carol (l Rd ), January 5, 2023 at 7:48 PM
We chose to live in this part of South Knoxville because it is peaceful! We greatly oppose a shooting range so close to us!! Our nice quiet neighborhood will be changed with a constant sound of gunshots. Please consider this and stop this plan immediately!
1-A-23-UR Scott (37920), January 5, 2023 at 8:05 PM
I am an avid gun owner that lives within a mile and believes there needs to be places to practice. BUT this is too much of a residential area with HOUSES, CHURCHES, and CEMETERIES, one of which is the Veteran Cemetery. I am quite sure that no one standing at a veterans cemetery wants to hear rifle shots from ak's and automatic weapons going off while they're standing in peace and quiet at their loved ones tombstones. There's also the problem of home values in the area that will decline because of this, as well as the many of us around here that have outdoor parties during football season and other sporting events outside and enjoy our friends without the sound of firearms going off constantly.
The only way I would even consider this is if it's an indoor range otherwise I have no doubt you can find a better area far from the public to let the bullets fly.
1-A-23-UR Michele (37920), January 6, 2023 at 9:22 AM
I strongly oppose the gun range that is within 2 miles of my home. We live a gated community that is very quiet and well maintained. All the home in our community are over $500,000 and having a gun range this close will lower our property value and the noise is just acceptable. Please do not allow this gun range to move forward!! .
1-A-23-UR Mychael (37920), January 6, 2023 at 2:34 PM
We live less than a mile from this proposed range.
We live in a high end residential neighborhood with residential neighborhoods all around this area. We have seniors who moved here and don’t want to hear this awful gun shots, countless household dogs who this will terrify, retired veterans with ptsd who this could easily be life threatening to and wildlife that this will for sure scare away. This will also greatly decrease property value and it’s for these reasons and countless others that this proposed gun range should not happen!
1-A-23-UR Kevin (37920), January 6, 2023 at 2:59 PM
I want to write the planning commission and voice my concerns about this proposed gun firing range. My neighborhood is very close to the proposed gun range, and believe this would negatively affect property values, cause harm to wildlife, cause children to fear being outside, and generally be a noise nuisance to the community. Please vote against this gun firing range.
1-A-23-UR John (37920), January 6, 2023 at 3:01 PM
Commissioners I would like to be able to voice my opinion on the shooting range to be built at 5285 French Rd. We live only 1 mile from the proposed site and do not want be annoyed with the sound of shooting when we built our house in this location for the purpose of being in a quite secluded area and do not think this would be a good decision to allow this to proceed. It is not fair to our domestic animals nor to our wildlife or to the community who enjoys being outside with our families to have this annoyance. I hope your vote will be for the good of the tax prayers who own homes and property around this area and that you would decline the proposed site for the shooting range.
1-A-23-UR Douglas (37920), January 6, 2023 at 3:25 PM
This proposed range is very near the Veteran's Cemetery on John Sevier highway and the new Veteran's Memorial Park overlooking the cemetery. As a retired Navy Chief Petty Officer I find this project to be very disturbing and disrespectful to my deceased Brothers and Sisters and to their families and friends!
1-A-23-UR Darlene (37920), January 6, 2023 at 4:43 PM
To whom it may concern, I am hoping with all the comments coming in you you take them all into consideration. I and my family live less than a mile from the site in a gated community, besides the loud noise, decreased property value, scaring little kids, pets, and military retires who have pstd. This woul be a very bad move. We came here for the area and peacefulness. Thank you for listening. Please make the right decision for the communty close to the area.
1-A-23-UR Martha (37920), January 7, 2023 at 1:41 PM
We cannot think of any reason this request for an outdoor shooting range should be approved particularly since several acres in this area were recently rezoned for high density housing. I doubt people will want to move to that development if they will hear constant shooting. We live in a quiet residential neighborhood where residents have pets, children, and lots of privacy. Approval of this request would decrease the value of our homes' investments & disturb us daily. If they want to build an indoor shooting range that would be fine. Knox County has plenty of rural land where the outdoor range would work. Locating it less than one mile from our residential neighborhood & the many other residential neighborhoods in this area should not be condoned or approved.
I am a rock-solid believer in our Second Amendment constitutional rights but permitting the proposed outdoor range would be a truly awful, cruel idea.
Firing ranges that are open to the sky should account for the orientation of the range in relation to the sun. The site plan reveals one long shooting lane where shooters would be aiming towards the WSW (into the sun) during afternoons. One reason why you should not approve this plan is because the firing lane's WSW orientation would not ensure that afternoon sunlight would not impede a marksman’s view but would instead present unsafe firing practices.
All of the objectors deserve peaceful and calm enjoyment of their property, and they all deserve protection from emotional harm.
Surely the applicant can go elsewhere to a more rural, less populated location that would not result in so much harm to so many neighbors.
1-A-23-UR Karen (37920), January 8, 2023 at 4:31 AM
As an area homeowner I strongly object to the building, licensing, operation of a gun firing range/business in our area. We are a peaceful part of Knoxville with many homes and schools and churches and totally object to this proposed operation being present in our neighborhood.
Please say NO!
I appreciate your voice and vote and am confident that you will represent us well in stopping the approval of this operation.
1-A-23-UR Nancy (37920), January 9, 2023 at 11:29 AM
We live about a mile from the French Road shooting range. We are full time guardians of our 4 year old grandson who loves to be outside.
Please keep our neighborhood safe and peaceful. I do not want him to hear gunshots nor does my husband and myself. We are one of over 40 residential homes in our subdivision who collectively have many children/grandchildren.
Please consider this before approving such a request.
1-A-23-UR Stephanie (37920), January 9, 2023 at 5:13 PM
I am NOT in favor of this rezoning. This proposed gun range is way too close to houses, neighborhoods, farmland, churches and schools, New Hopewell being the main school. People in Mountain Place Neighborhood already hear large trucks that go down the highway due to the position of the mountain/ridge. A gun range will make our home unlivable because the sounds will echo off that ridge. Children will not be able to play outside and dogs/pets and homeowners will not be able to live in peace without constantly being scared. Please do not approve this!
Gun shots (not even from a range can be heard for miles and miles). If approved, this range will be less than 2 miles from New Hopewell Elementary school where children playing on the playground will hear gun shots and teachers and students will be fearful to go outside. Will the teachers know its the gun range or an actual shot being fired near the school? Safety is a major concern here!
Thanks a very concerned homeowner and Knox County teacher. - Stephanie Cook
1-A-23-UR Jackie (37920), January 9, 2023 at 6:39 PM
I live in a residential subdivision within a mile of the proposed gun range. There is an elementary school close by too. This should not be allowed with children nearby nor close to residential areas. The noise it will cause will be disturbing especially due to the violence that is happening everywhere this day and time. Another concern will be the depreciation of our property value from the boom and banging everyday.
1-A-23-UR Brianna (37920), January 9, 2023 at 6:41 PM
As a homeowner less than 2 miles away from this proposed outdoor gun range, I am asking that this please not be approved. It is already loud enough around here with frequent gun shots and all the traffic on John Sevier Highway, not to mention the quarry in the industrial park. I cannot imagine purposely adding to the noise. My husband and I like to be outside and enjoy our property with our 13 month old and our neighbors, and more shooting is the very last thing we want to hear.
If a person who does not live in this area could picture what it would be like to have an outdoor gun rage going in near their home, I believe most people would feel the same way myself and the rest of the community does.
I believe gun ranges are needed, but this is certainly not an appropriate place for one amongst all these residences. Please do not approve this proposal.
1-A-23-UR Matthew (37920), January 9, 2023 at 7:26 PM
The proposed gun range is less than two miles from a neighborhood, Mountain Place, that would be directly affected by the noise generated at the range. Stray rounds from the range could pose a hazard to the houses directly adjoining the property that adjoins to the proposed range. This range would have a direct negative impact on the value of the properties located in Mountain Place. Additionally, the proximity to the nearby school (New Hopewell Elementary) makes this location non-ideal for a gun rage.
1-A-23-UR Talon (37920), January 9, 2023 at 8:02 PM
I am a home owner right down the street and live on the hill that sits just above this proposed gun range. Living right here you already hear the shooting way too much as it is. I am a gun owner myself and love to shoot but I 100% do not want a gun range right next to my house. I can’t imagine having to deal with the added noise over what we already deal with including the traffic from John Sevier, industrial park, rock quarry, etc.. Please do not grant permission to this applicant. As neighbor to this property and someone who enjoys spending what time off work I can get outside, I hope we can this area free from this kind business.
1-A-23-UR Robert (37920), January 9, 2023 at 9:30 PM
I recently learned that a request has been made to Knox County regarding a planned "Private Rifle Range" adjacent to French Road. My home is within two miles of this planned shooting range. It should be noted that the plans show this property is near many residences, including my own. There are nearby churches, a school, and plans for additional housing nearby. The establishing of a shooting range so close to our residential neighborhoods could negatively impact our property values.
I am a retired, VA Disabled, combat veteran Green Beret. With more than 22 years of Active Service, I settled in South Knoxville for the calm and quiet of the countryside. I am VERY familiar with the sounds of gunfire and am no longer able to comfortably live with it. If this shooting range is developed, I will be forced to seek peace and quiet further away from such unwelcome sounds. Please consider the intrusiveness of the noises startling those nearby, or the irreverence to those families and friends who are laying their loved ones to rest at the very nearby East Tennessee Veterans Cemetery. I am firmly against this proposed shooting range.
1-A-23-UR Sarah (37920), January 10, 2023 at 12:14 AM
My family and I, living less than a mile from this prospective shooting range, are strongly opposed to the idea. It is honestly surprising to me that this idea can even be proposed being so close to multiple neighborhoods in a growing community. I would have thought there would be more rigorous guidelines to be able to propose a shooting range, (proximity to neighborhoods, density of said neighborhoods, proximity to highways and roadways, etc). I am not opposed to people owning guns, and definitely not to people learning how to safely operate them... but there is a place for such things, and this is not it. Home is supposed to be where you can find peace and escape to; please don't take that away from us. I truly hope that in reading these multiple comments, it is understood that this is not something this community wants or needs. Hindering property values and quality of life is in no way a positive for this community, please hear us.
1-A-23-UR Patricia (37920), January 10, 2023 at 9:46 AM
When I learned of this shooting/ammunition testing range being proposed within a mile or less of our neighborhood, I was appalled. We have young children, pets and wildlife that thrive here. This will not only disrupt, disturb and traumatize, it is unnecessary. If someone wants to do this for whatever reason, I recommend that person look elsewhere far removed from neighborhoods and pastoral settings such as ours. Please do not approve.
1-A-23-UR Andrea (37920), January 10, 2023 at 4:13 PM
I write to express my concern and deep dissatisfaction with the proposal for a shooting range on French Road. It would adversely affect our residents, communities, and property values. It's estimated that a handgun shot can be heard to up to a mile radius; a shotgun or rifle, up to two miles. I have attached a summary showing that an estimated 3,053 residents and over 1,200 housing units would be impacted by these actions of this single property owner, should this proposal be approved. Does the property owner live on site? I would bet not.
My partner and I moved to South Knoxville to enjoy the nature, recreation, and quite beauty of the area. I suspect many other residents feel the same way. I urge the commission to consider the impacts this proposed shooting range would have to current residents as well as to the local economy and property values in the area as we continue to see people drawn to this area for the serenity and recreational opportunities. Those would be spoiled with constant noise from this proposed shooting range.
1-A-23-UR Robert (37920), January 10, 2023 at 5:00 PM
I live in a home nearby. I am concerned about the constant noise. I also worry about the environmental impact of the deposit of lead that will be left in the ground. Is there a mitigation plan for the lead that may be in the water that runs off the site after rainfall that may increase over time? Please consider all environmental issues.
1-A-23-UR Jonathan (37920), January 10, 2023 at 8:22 PM
I would like the panning commission to consider the current usage of the neighborhood, with special consideration given to the sensitive elderly, the young families in their starter homes, the veterans, special-needs children, the churches, the schools.
With all due respect for the safe and recreational use of firearms - a shooting range (especially a club or commercial range) will negatively affect the residents of the neighborhood in uncountable ways - from children's development to property values, to our beloved elderly who have chosen to live out their lives in the peace of their own homes, and everything in between.
I urge the commission to follow the desires of the majority of the residents and not in favor of a single LLC.
1-A-23-UR Mischelle (37920), January 10, 2023 at 10:11 PM
I live in the Mountain Place subdivision and as someone who is terrified of guns I totally oppose of a shooting range being so close to my home. Hearing gunshots here and there is one thing, but to hear them all day long is another. I would not be able to go out and enjoy sitting on my deck let alone be able to let my dog outside. I am totally against this and if there is a vote, I will definitely vote no!
general Vicki (k Dr ), January 11, 2023 at 7:48 AM
I am extremely concerned about the lack of infrastructure for toads, traffic planning and access to Turkey Creek. It is frustrating fighting the traffic from Parkside and Lovell Road. It is so frustrating that I avoid traveling to that area and the great stores in Turkey Creek. Mr. Welch was quoted saying we can't turn down development. We can say no unless Knox County can provide the proper infrastructure before development or perhaps Knox County and the developers partner to put the infrastructure in place before the development. Yes economic development is critical to the health of any city. However, if consumers cannot reach the business, there will be lost revenue for those businesses that may need to shut down. Turkey Creek is off my list for shopping and restaurants. Thank you.
1-A-23-UR Kelly (37920), January 11, 2023 at 1:27 PM
An outdoor gun range in a primarily residential area is an affront to the rights of homeowners in our peaceful part of Knox County. Homeowners move to South Knoxville to escape the noise and traffic prevalent in other parts of our county. Bringing a gun range to what has always been a quiet, residential area will not only negatively impact homeowners, but it will also change the nature of this rural part of our community. Please consider the negative impacts to property values, traffic patterns, safety of children and school buses that use this route daily, and good old fashioned peace and quiet. As residents of this part of South Knox County, we have chosen to live here for a reason; please do not change the fabric of our community by allowing a commercial business to disrupt the atmosphere we moved here to enjoy.
1-A-23-UR Carolyn (37920), January 11, 2023 at 4:00 PM
My property is just on the other side of this. We are a quiet residential community and we need to keep it that way. Plus, our grandchildren play in the woods very close to this site. Adding a gun range would be a terrible nuisance to a community of folks who worked hard all of their lives to enjoy peace and quiet. PLEASE do not allow this to happen.
1-A-23-UR Sandra (37920), January 11, 2023 at 6:34 PM
I am stunned that a firing range and possible ammo/gun store is being considered in my quiet residential area. I vote NO, as I am sure 90% of all residents would. The noise politiion and other dangers do not belong among neighborhoods.
1-A-23-UR Stan (37865), January 13, 2023 at 6:02 PM
I am building a home at Mountain Place. We are just at the top of the ridge from the proposed commercial shooting range.
I am building this home for my retirement years. When I looked for property the noise level was advertised on all properties listed. I chose this property because it was very quiet.
I am currently still employed and have to work nights and sleep during the day. I do not want to hear gunfire all day long. I have trouble sleeping and gunfire will be too much.
I also want to sit on my porch on my free time and have peace and quiet.
I have been hearing some shooting already. It is much louder than a hand gun or rifle.
I am against this proposed shooting range and I am asking you to protect our property from the noise level.
I have read it will be a commercial shooting range with a fence around it. There are young pre-teens around here that go into the woods exploring. I hope they are safe. I hope you will protect all of us.
1-A-23-UR Morgan (37920), January 13, 2023 at 6:19 PM
I am the spa director at a medispa located about 2 miles down from the proposed location. After hearing about this project, I am worried about how this business could effect the safety of the neighborhoods directly surrounding this as well as the sound effects/business impact on local businesses as we try to create a quiet, relaxing environment for our guest. Please do not put this in so close to homes and businesses in this quiet community.
1-A-23-UR Brianna (37920), January 13, 2023 at 6:41 PM
I have made a comment already but I wanted to make a second one to make myself more clear. The proposed gun range is not just a mile or so down the road. Our home is in the back of Mountain Place subdivision and the actual gun range is just over the hill of our property. Right now we can hear gun shots while we are inside our home. We are now worried about having to go through this more frequently. We never thought this would be a worry for us out here and frankly we shouldn’t have to worry about it. This is a completely inappropriate setting for a gun range amongst a dense population of homes, a school, businesses, etc. If this is something you would not want near your home, please consider those of us who have the reality of it.
1-A-23-UR Kaitlyn (37920), January 13, 2023 at 7:06 PM
The proposed shooting range is 0.25 miles from my residence. I have small children (5 and 7) who deserve the right to play in their yard without hearing gunshots a quarter of a mile away. Accidents happen, and a quarter of a mile is just too close for comfort for me. This area of Knoxville is serene, tucked away from the hustle and bustle of the city. We can enjoy watching deer, rabbits, and other wildlife in our backyard. We have an incredible view of the mountains. The peace and tranquility of this neighborhood is why we chose it. Our property value will plummet if this shooting range gets approved. Nobody would choose to live this close to noise and danger -- especially not at a competitive price. We will demand compensation for this loss. There will be an uprising from residents of Mountain Place and surrounding areas to defend their property value and standard of living. And, as others have mentioned, the proximity to New Hopewell Elementary is absurd. There will be tremendous pushback from concerned parents. Can you imagine small children trying to learn and feel safe in an environment where shots are being fired throughout the day? Do yourself and everyone else a favor and take this project elsewhere. Please do not disrupt and uproot an entire community for the sake of guns.
1-A-23-UR Tomasi (37920), January 13, 2023 at 10:59 PM
This is right down the road from New Hopewell Elementary and Favorite Friends Day Care, not to mention many family homes. That somebody would even consider to request putting an outside shooting range in this area shows a serious lack of judgement and basic consideration.
1-A-23-UR Tomasi (37920), January 14, 2023 at 12:01 AM
On top of the noise pollution for the homes and schools located near by that all the residents have shown their just concern for, it should also be noted that on top of this, Pelennor Fields is associated with Jordan Mollenhour, the founder of Lucky Gunner, whose company has been involved in numerous lawsuits, including for selling ammunition to the 17 year old who fatally shot 10 people at a Texas high school, and for selling 4,000 rounds of ammo to the man who fatally shot 12 people in a Colorado movie theater. Now him and his company want to be trusted to build an outdoor shooting range half a mile from an elementary school and day care facility that is also surrounded by family homes?
A business that sold ammunition to an under-age school shooter should in no sensible world be given permission to build an outdoor gun range within a mile of a school, day care facility and residential neighborhoods. This is obviously a very unwise proposal that the community is against, and it should be located in a more remote location.
1-A-23-UR Briton (37923), January 15, 2023 at 7:54 AM
Please see the attached letter submitted on behalf of the property owner, Pelennor Fields, LLC, and its affiliate/lessee, LuckyGunner, LLC, responding to comments tendered to the Planning Commission regarding our Use on Review application, and providing additional information about the subject property, its intended use, and the impact on the surrounding area. Thank you for your consideration. View Attachment
1-A-23-UR Stephanie (37920), January 16, 2023 at 12:30 PM
I will be absent from the meeting - but you are welcome to publicize my message. I spoke to Taylor Forrester on Christmas Day via email and was concerned that this property would be open to the public - he got back to me almost immediately and reassured me that it was for the owner's use and whomever they allow only. It is not open to the public itself. If that has changed, I am not for this, as there would be no privacy for residents on this street.
I am the owner of the house that is pretty much right next to the gun range. I have lived here for 23 years; I grew up walking back where the range is now. If this range is used for private use only, then you have my vote. This property has been used as a shooting range since I was a child, and I assume this meeting is because too many people have complained. However, as an owner of the property that is one of the closest to this range, the shooting is not a problem for me (you can barely even hear it as they are pretty far back in the wooded area).
Also, it may be beneficial for the public if Taylor or an owner of the property could do a "video imaging" of how this range is going to be run if it is approved. I was notified through Groups on Facebook that people were making a big deal out of this, and I think they are getting the wrong idea of what the range is going to be. This should be clarified or it could get denied at the meeting (angry folks). This range has been used for private shooting since I was a child.
1-A-23-UR Tom/Sharon (37920), January 16, 2023 at 5:37 PM
We ask that this proposal be rejected outright. It is clearly not consistent with the ongoing residential development in this area. The idea that a gun range (which would be a commercial property whether it's private - as proposed - or for public use) would be in keeping with long-range planning for this sector is ludicrous. This is not the kind of growth that improves a community, or one that meets any standards of planning. It's impossible to gauge the noise pollution of such a proposal because of so few details in the application. Regardless, a gun range in the midst of churches, a veterans cemetery, multiple single-family homes, high-end subdivisions and approved subdivisions being built in the near future boggles the mind. We're aware that the current zoning for this property allows a broad interpretation of land use, but a gun range where the applicant says all kinds of weapons will be tested surely can't be among those potential uses. As broad as the zoning is, your authority to use common sense and apply community well-being should supersede such a loophole.
1-A-23-UR Terry (37920), January 17, 2023 at 8:28 PM
Pelennor Fields LLC is linked Lucky Gunner, which is being sued for selliing ammunition to a minor who was the mass shooter at Santa Fe High School in 2018. They also sold ammo to James E. Holmes, Aurora theatre shooter in 2012.
INSIDE OF KNOXVILLE: "Guns, Ammo, and The Center City?"
1-A-23-UR Janice (37920), January 18, 2023 at 1:08 PM
It seems disingenuous to state this would be a private rifle/shooting range when the intent is a commercial ammo /gun testing range . As such would this not require a rezoning request from agricultural/rural l to commercial rather than use on review?
1-A-23-UR George (37920), January 18, 2023 at 2:00 PM
I'm totally reject having a gun range in our neighbor hood. With 4 churches and a school lest than a mile away. Also houses closer than that. It's a danger and lose of property values because of this so close. Thanks George Jacobs
2-SB-23-C Regina (37914), January 20, 2023 at 4:01 PM
There is simply no way the roads around this area will support this additional traffic. Buffat Mill and Loves Creek intersection is about as dangerous as they get. The intersection of Buffat Mill and Springhill has seen multiple wrecks. There is always, always, always a line going from Loves Creek to Rutledge pike.
McIntire is constantly seeing wrecks from speeders try to get around the train that blocks Springhill. Not to mention the schools in the area are already overcrowded! If they what to develop the property, they have to take all of this into consideration. Larger houses, fewer lots should be considered. As a citizen of this community that travels all of these roads, please turn this proposal down.
1-A-23-UR Chris (37920), January 22, 2023 at 6:48 PM
Do not approve the re-zoning request in South Knox County, use on review 1-A-23-U. I strongly oppose this proposed land use. My home, my dental practice, and my parent’s home are all downrange from the proposed firing range and within a two-mile radius. In addition, the proposed range is a half mile from New Hopewell Elementary, Beulah Church and Northstar Church. Like the Medispa owner who commented, I do my best to create a calm relaxing environment for my patients who may be anxious. The noise from this proposed firing range would negatively impact my business and the businesses around me. It would also undoubtedly create a stressful environment for the students of New Hopewell Elementary and the homeowners nearby. Knowing this activity is occurring also negatively impacts our perceived sense of safety in our community.
Counter to the applicant’s assertion, this is no longer a rural area. Permitting this commercial firing range within a few thousand feet of churches and schools is irresponsible and should not be approved.
2-SB-23-C Terry (37914), January 27, 2023 at 12:33 PM
I would like to share some concerns regarding impact of this development to my neighborhood.
1. Infrastructure & Public Safety- Buffat Trace community sits to the left of this proposed development on Buffat Mill Rd., a well travelled, two lane road which can treacherous when turning on to it at certain times of day, due to volume and speed. One of our primary intersections we use to access Washington/Millertown Pike, is with Spring Hill. This intersection is also dangerous, any time of day, due to obstructed lines of site of oncoming traffic travelling up the hill and through this intersection (this traffic has the right of way, and no stop sign). The increased traffic, and construction traffic through this intersection will make it even more tenuous.
2. Environmental Preservation - while I understand that development is inevitable, and that there is a huge housing shortage in Knoxville, I am concerned about the environmental impact on my neighborhood. One of the selling points, for me, was the wooded area behind my lot. It allows privacy, and valuable green space for native birds and other wildlife. I am concerned that a large development will destroy that green space.
I am requesting a modification to the development that will minimize the impact to both the neighborhood safety, and the environment (perhaps fewer units, or construction that does not butt up against the Buffat Trace residences on Locarno.
2-SB-23-C Hussein (37914), January 30, 2023 at 12:33 PM
Hello. Roads around here are very dangerous with all the blind spots and you want to add 720 vehicles to make it deadly, also we have a little bit of woods and animal habitats to enjoy and you want to get rid of it . Please don’t leave our community alone there are plenty of open spaces every where , we have enough problems as it is please don’t add to it
2-SB-23-C Heriberto & Carrie (37914), January 30, 2023 at 4:29 PM
I am writing to state serious safety concerns I have about this development plan. They are as follows:
* The proposed road which would intersect with Buffat Mill Road is also a "blind spot" for those exiting Locarno Drive onto Buffat Mill Road.
* That part of BMR has no sidewalks, no shoulders, and extremely deep ditches/ravines that are part of a water run off system during heavy rains.
* The stretch of Buffat Mill Road that would connect to the newly installed road is not in good condition. There are "chunks" of the road which have broken off.
* Lastly, I would mention the wildlife effected. At the present time, the woods that would be destroyed by the development will displace or kill resident deer, wild turkeys, birds, racoons, rabbits, possum, and many more species. I know because I live on Locarno Drive and I see them on a daily basis.
Thank you for your attention and consideration. Heriberto & Carrie Fernandez
2-SB-23-C Charles (37914), January 31, 2023 at 8:16 PM
Obviously the people planning this subdivision of duplexes has never driven the roads in this area in the mornings or afternoon. In the mornings it can take forever just to try to get to the interstate there is so much traffic especially with the school and if there happens to be a train on Springhill Road. In the afternoons it is just as bad you cannot get in or out of this area no matter which direction you come from or are going to. I have lived at this address that I am out on Mont Vista road for 15 years and it has always been bad I cannot imagine how the traffic will be with an a possibility of an additional 720 vehicles coming and going every morning and afternoon. I know that our elementary school in the neighborhood is maxed out. And the roads in this area are narrow and dangerous at times. I know there are a lot of wrecks in this particular area around where this proposed development is going and we also have a fairly large number of Elderly people living in this area. It appears to me that whoever is developing this site is doing it just for the money and does not care about the impact on the area of overcrowding schools over crowded and dangerous roads not to mention the additional stress to the utilities in this neighborhood. And I am also curious I have always heard there is a sinkhole on that property I am just wondering how they’re gonna handle that because it doesn’t look like there’s any allowance for it on the site map
1-A-23-UR Nancy (37920), February 1, 2023 at 5:43 PM
Not sure if I have the correct case……Writing to protest the outdoor gun range planned near Kimberlin Heights community on John Seiver near Old French road. We already have the noise pollution from the 411 Speedway and neighbors shooting their guns…….we do not need the ongoing noise pollution from gun range noise as well. Especially so near an elementary school, two churches and residential areas. I believe this will not enhance our community but be a detraction and devaluation of our homes. The sound of guns penetrates the walls of our homes and destroys the peace and quiet. It also spooks large and small animals and keeps them in a state of terror. I believe this type of business is better suited for areas farther away from residential areas and elementary schools and churches.
2-SB-23-C Lance (3914), February 1, 2023 at 9:17 PM
I would like to express my concerns about the development of Buffet Mill Estates.
The current infrastructure cannot support the amount of traffic now on Buffet Mill, Spring Hill, and Loves Creek. adding an additional 720 cars would be chaos. The attached traffic analysis is a joke.
Calling Buffet Mill "a comfortable bike route" is insane. I would like to invite any current city planner or commissioner to ride a bike on Buffet Mill.
3 issues I would like to address:
1) There are numerous blind spots on Buffet Mill like Locarno Drive. adding an Subdivision entrance for 720 cars 60 yards is inviting disaster. Also there are bus stops along the stretch where the children are already at risk. This will only multiply that risk. Finally there are no sidewalks or shoulders on Buffet mill. In snow, cars slide into the washout ditches.
2) Buffet Mill and Spring Hill 3 way stop. There are accidents almost daily at this intersection. Adding 720 cars will only add to this mess. There are blind spots in both directions of Spring Hill. The city has never addressed this.
3) Buffet Mill and Loves Creek: This intersection is a Blind Spot and dangerous. The city thought installing a mirror on a light pole was the answer. Really? If there is rain of frost this doesn't work. Now with 250 cars from Clear Springs Plantation using Loves Creek to get to Millertown Pike or Rutledge Pike it is crazy.
2-SB-23-C Deirdre (37914), February 1, 2023 at 9:20 PM
I have enormous concerns regarding the Buffet Mill Estates development.
As you should be aware the roads in the area (Buffat Mill, Spring Hill, Loves Creek) have extremely heavy traffic volume for two lane roads. The Traffic Analysis is blatantly misleading when it states Buffet Mill Rd is accessible for walking and bike riding. None of the roads in this area have shoulders or sidewalks. In many areas the edge of the roads are crumbling. The heavy construction equipment will destroy what is left of these narrow roads, not to mention the additional 720 cars this development will add to our overly congested roadways.
I'd like to draw your attention to the many blind spots in the following intersections.
- Buffat Mill Rd & Loves Creek. Blind spot to turn left .... A small mirror was added to a pole & it is useless during inclement weather.
- Buffat Mill Rd & Spring Hill. This is a 3 way stop with the traffic coming up the hill from Washington Pike having the right of way. Many accidents have occurred in this intersection. Blind Spots exist in both directions on Buffet Mill turning onto Spring Hill.
Fire and Rescue: What happens if there is an accident at Spring Hill and Buffet Mill (which happens regularly), How does Fire and Rescue get to Buffet Trace Condos in a life saving event?
2-SB-23-C Derrick (37865), February 2, 2023 at 11:07 AM
As an adjacent property owner, Monte Vista Road and "Road A" by the dog park, at a minimum, should connect via a sidewalk or pedestrian greenway, if not a full road connection to connect the dead-end Monte Vista Road. People are likely going to walk there regardless of whether a road or sidewalk is built as it is the most direct way to get to the elementary school. In addition, would like to request a set back or additional tall greenery/tree privacy screen to block the sight/sound/smell of a dog park in such close proximity to 5025 Monte Vista Road.
2-SB-23-C Holly (37914), February 2, 2023 at 12:00 PM
My main concern is about public safety. Fire and Rescue MUST have unimpeded access to our homes.
Contrary to existing reports, bicyclists and walkers DO NOT have any access on Buffat Mill Road. There have NEVER been sidewalks or shoulders—only eroded asphalt and steep ditches to allow for heavy rain.
This poses an already untenable risk to children who use the school bus.
Finally, there is at least 1accident per month at Buffat Mill Road and Spring Hill. Construction vehicles and increased traffic volume will pose a potentially insurmountable safety issue. Please reconsider the current density of this development taking into consideration current outdated infrastructure.
general Shanin (37917), February 2, 2023 at 11:34 PM
I would like to address an issue that has been a severe difficulty for homeless residence in the city of Knoxville that needs to be addressed directly to help assist the homeless in obtaining permanent residency in the area. I believe in providing access to charging terminals would be very helpful in providing the charging terminals to keep their phones charged to keep in touch with housing possibilities available to them to stay in contact with placement possibilities. I made several calls and left several emails to the mayors of this city . My last attempt I personal arranged a conversation with one of the secretaries in the mayors office as well in person and still no action has been taken . I would like someone from your office to contact me at your soonest available time that we may arrange to discuss these issues directly . You may reach me via email projectchosenones@gmail.com or you may reach me by via cell phone #423-4461466 directly whenever available to discuss these issues please it would be greatly appreciated if you may assist me further for a resolution to this problem possibly . I appreciate the time and attention. Your cooperation would be great to address this issue thank you very much for your cooperation
2-C-23-SU Lynda (37914), February 3, 2023 at 12:45 PM
I am aware that growth is inevitable; however, the number of homes on this piece of property is too many for the roads and schools, etc. Buffat Mill, Love's Creek, and McIntyre are already busy and dangerous! To add this many homes with the requisite traffic is irresponsible. This is a zone for parents being responsible to get their kids to elementary school and I assume high school. I find it ridiculous to see the Knox Bicycle Map 2017 saying these roads are safe for bikes. They are narrow, two-lane, head-on streets with dropoffs. In ten years of living here I have never seen anyone riding a bike on them. I would hate to see kids riding their bikes to school! The density should be re-evaluated to fewer homes!
1-A-23-UR Noel (37920), February 4, 2023 at 12:45 PM
I am opposed to this because of the following reasons: This will add considerable noise pollution to our community and bring down the value of homes in our area. Not to mention spooking animals both great and small and being located near Hopewell elementary school and two churches. We are not against firearms, we are against the location of where this is planning to be built. This should be relocated to a location away from residential areas!
1-A-23-UR Cheryl (37876), February 4, 2023 at 12:46 PM
I am opposed to this because of the following reasons: This will add considerable noise pollution to our community and bring down the value of homes in our area. Not to mention spooking animals both great and small and being located near Hopewell elementary school and two churches. We are not against firearms, we are against the location of where this is planning to be built. This should be relocated to a location away from residential areas!
1-A-23-UR Derek (37920), February 4, 2023 at 12:47 PM
I am opposed to this because of the following reasons: This will add considerable noise pollution to our community and bring down the value of homes in our area. Not to mention spooking animals both great and small and being located near Hopewell elementary school and two churches. We are not against firearms, we are against the location of where this is planning to be built. This should be relocated to a location away from residential areas!
1-A-23-UR Nevaeh (37920), February 4, 2023 at 12:49 PM
I am opposed to this because of the following reasons: This will add considerable noise pollution to our community and bring down the value of homes in our area. Not to mention spooking animals both great and small and being located near Hopewell elementary school and two churches. We are not against firearms, we are against the location of where this is planning to be built. This should be relocated to a location away from residential areas!
2-C-23-SU Lynda (37914), February 5, 2023 at 12:30 PM
I submitted comments a couple days ago, but after thinking about it I have to strongly state my opposition to 2-C-23-SU. The way the site is now planned there will be at minimum 720 units with all the visitors, service people, friends, etc. entering and exiting onto the surrounding streets. I believe that there will be at least 1,000 vehicles, but more likely. The area cannot sustain this kind of traffic without dangerous conditions. Most families have one or two vehicles. Tell the developers NO to this plan and send them back to the drawing board for a more sustainable one with less density!! This number of people will affect not only the traffic the schools. This will greatly diminish the quality of the lives of the current residents of the surrounding neighborhoods!!
1-A-23-UR Roscoe (37920), February 6, 2023 at 10:11 PM
Please do not rezone the property off French Rd for The Gun Target Shooting Range because within the Aerial distance of less than a mile there are 4 churches and one Elementary school. And that is the way to measure sound and distance of bullets. We live right in the middle of them and have heard shotting from that direction before. They say it is not going to be a Public Range. So why disrupt so many people and the community for a Private or Public activity too. Thank You, Roscoe
2-SB-23-C Ashley (37914), February 7, 2023 at 7:56 AM
This development is too high density for this area. The roads are already congested especially when it is necessary to funnel all traffic to loves creek when the train frequently has to stop blocking the only other two routes to get to rutledge pike. Which involves traveling under a small, dated, underpass that is barely two car width wide with height restrictions and red light immediately outside of the tunnel. The traffic study on this project is extremely limited and needs to be cover a much wider time frame. It should be at least an entire 24 hr weekday span and a full week would be more informative on the impact this highly concentrated development would add to an already congested area. I understand the need for housing. But speaking as a recent home buyer people want single family low density homes. Not duplexes or houses with tiny yards practically sitting on top of each other. Additionally the land this development is planned for is home to a vast population of wild life and plant life. By reducing the volume of housing in this development much of the large trees and therefore animal habitats could be spared. This would also obviously somewhat reduce the impact to the much needed tree canopy.
2-SB-23-C Paul (37914), February 8, 2023 at 7:42 PM
As a resident of Buffat Mill Rd located close to the entrance of this development I wish to voice my objection. The entrance to this development is located in a dangerous section of Buffat Mill Rd. There is a rise in the road that makes it difficult for traffic to see homeowners exiting their driveways and conversely home owners exiting their driveways are surprised by oncoming traffic cresting the hill which often travel at excessive speed in this area. Also, adding 360 to 720 additional cars to a road under constructed for the current volume of traffic is unreasonable and dangerous. Furthermore, the intersection of Buffat Mill Rd and Springhill Rd is the cause of serious accidents on almost a daily basis. This needs to be addressed immediately regardless of the outcome of this problem issue. This is not the first time this area has tried to undergo development and was found to not be a viable option.
1-A-23-UR Becky (37920), February 9, 2023 at 10:14 AM
I am writing to convey my concerns about the proposed firing range on French Rd. There are many homes and sensitive businesses within ear shot of the property. The hope for most communities is to plan for and nurture growth so a firing range, whether private or public, seems counterproductive for this area. Families, children, and pets will be subjected to jarring sounds which will impact quality of life. As a veterinarian, I can professionally attest to the negative impact this will have on many pets and the deterrent it will be for prospective homeowners within 2 miles of the range. I join the many home and business owners who wish to protect our community.
On a personal note, my home is less than 1 mile from the French Rd property. I enjoy many hours outside so am deeply concerned about the impact this will have on my ability to relax or recreate in my neighborhood. Additionally, like most owners, I am very aware that a firing range within ear shot will have detrimental effects on property values and resale options.
I hope the commission will act in favor of the community and vote against this proposal.
1-A-23-UR Nancy (37920), February 9, 2023 at 11:36 AM
I am writing to protest the proposed gun range so close to my home and neighborhood. We already have noise pollution from the 411 speedway and occasional gunfire by neighbors and do not want a steady stream of gunfire from an outdoor range and higher power guns. It is very near an elementary school, three churches and residential communities. Not to mention that gunfire sound penetrates homes, spooks people, wildlife, pets, and domestic animals like horses. I believe this also will not enhance home values but diminish them. I think more residential areas are planned nearby the proposed location. I vote no gun range on French road.
2-C-23-SU Grant (37914), February 9, 2023 at 2:42 PM
In ight of the narrow road on Buffet and that unique intersection of Buffett & McIntyre RD....there are no shoulders on either road I think there could be some safety issues as well major traffic concerns. Another potential traffic concern with this increase traffic are the increase number of cars dumping onto Millertown and Mill Rd.
I am looking for information on how to get Knox County to add an ordinance regarding chickens in neighborhoods which is as strict as that of the city. Number allowed, no roosters, and needing a permit. I have been dealing with hens and roosters on the property next to mine for 4 years. There were 35 hens and 5 roosters next door to me on a less than 1 acre lot. The owner of the chickens finally got rid of them and settled out of court with us, but we had to spend an inordinate amount of money due to the legal system. I want to make sure that no one else has to deal with the smell, noise or devaluation of their property due to a neighbors poor choices. Any assistance into how this type of ordinance can be brought up and added to Knox County codes would be appreciated.
I am against the outdoor gun range as it will cause noise pollution in our mostly quiet community of Hopewell, spooking animals, children and make being outside undesirable. There are several churches and an elementary school nearby. It will also decrease property values as gun sounds penetrate walls of homes. We already contend with 411 speedway on weekends which is quite a ways away yet quite loud. There are many residential areas and more planned nearby. This seems an inappropriate proposal. Needs to be moved further out in industrial or very rural areas. Not near residential homes, schools and churches.
I am against the proposed outdoor gun range as it is very near residential areas, several churches and an elementary school. Sound travels and gun sounds penetrate buildings. This noise pollution will spook animals and people alike as well as bring down property values. Best placed further out in a rural area. Already contend with the noise pollution from 411 speedway….this would sandwich this area in noise pollution!
Please no. 3 churches less than a mile, school probably less than a mile. Sound carries terribly in our community. We can hear trains over 5+!miles away! We can already hear too much on John Sevier as it is and that is just for seconds! This has the potential to disrupt religious services, funerals, weddings plus other events plus learning and recreation. This is a slippery slope for sure. Thank you for listening
4-E-23-SU Darin (37920), March 14, 2023 at 2:16 PM
I have seen what the crew at The Drop Inn are wanting to bring to market and this is going to be a wonderful addition to the area and the Urban wilderness. Please approve this.
4-H-23-RZ Nathan (37920), March 22, 2023 at 10:07 AM
I am very much against making the current assisted living center a rehab/drug treatment facility. First reason being that it's right next to an elementary school. The other being that it's in the middle of a quiet neighborhood. From the neighborhood facebook comments on the matter, I'd say this would also make lots of people in the neighborhood uneasy. Will also probably lower the resale value of all surrounding properties
4-H-23-RZ Cathy (37920), March 22, 2023 at 10:31 AM
Regarding the Helen Ross McNabb's plans to turn Senior Living Center into Drug Rehab facility. This cannot be legal, as it is right next door to Dogwood Elementary, where my Son attends school. I speak on behalf of the parents whose children attend the school, as well as property owners in the immediate vicinity. There are already several "sober houses" in the area and it is not only unnecessary to have another rehab facility in the area, it is dangerous for our children, as well as other kids who walk right next to this building from South Doyle Middle School on a daily basis. Our children play outside at the Rec Center after school as well. What about the laws prohibiting liquor stores and other establishments to operate businesses within a certain distance to schools? How is this different? I vehemently oppose this plan.
4-H-23-RZ Steve (37920), March 22, 2023 at 12:44 PM
Please do not approve the South High site for use as a Drug Rehab facility. We already have our share of rehab and half way houses. Each time previously we are told things like 'they have already bought the land..' etc. In this case they haven't and I hope that others can see how bad an idea it is to install a drug rehab facility next to a grade school.
This neighborhood will not improve with a facility like this and it will also provide a foot hold for future uses along these lines.
At some point other areas of Knoxville should be able to support facilities such as this without turning South Knoxville into a dumping ground.
4-H-23-RZ Cynthia (37920), March 22, 2023 at 12:56 PM
I oppose the rezoning of the property on Tipton in South Knoxville. It is currently used as residential for Senior Citizens . This area is a small residential area that currently has 3 Step houses within 2 miles. It seems we do not need a rehab facility next to Dogwoo d Elementary and within 2 miles of a Middle School. My understanding is that this is a voluntary rehab program and residents can check theirselves out at any time which is concerning. This would certainly have an impact on our neighborhood. With housing being in short supply in Knoxville and UT housing students in hotels, it seems there are better options for this property and our neighborhood. Thank you for consideration.
4-H-23-RZ Nicole (37920), March 22, 2023 at 6:07 PM
I am writing to make my disapproval of the rezoning and potential implementation of the McNabb Center on Tipton Ave public.
As a resident of the neighborhood and a family member of a student at Dogwood Elementary, I find it troublesome to have this facility close to a school and question the legal basis, as well.
This facility will lower home values, foster concern for the safety of the children both in the subdivision and in the school and cause residents to leave in record numbers.
I strongly suggest another option for the location for your center.
4-L-23-SP Lisa (37919), March 23, 2023 at 12:01 PM
I live on Westland drive near this proposed medium density residential rezoning. This portion of Westland Drive was is heavily traveled. The Crescent at Westland high density anpartments increased traffic on Westland between Ebeneezer and Morrell Road to exacerbating levels. It s already extremely difficult and tricky to pull out of a driveway onto Westland. Our houses sit lower than the road which makes an already difficult situation even more difficult because the current speed limit is 40 mph. Any future construction on this stretch of road needs to be low density. The traffic light at Westland and Morrell is less than one mile from this proposed rezoning and there are times when cars stopped at this light block driveways. Please keep this property zoned low density residential.
I have already submitted comments but I wanted to add something to my concerns about the traffic that would be added if this zoning is approved. This property is a part of the zoning for Rocky Hill School on Morrell Rd. which is a small school. Constructing 12 dwelling units per acre on this parcel could significantly add to the number of students in this K-5 school and the traffic traveling East to the school on Westland to Morrell Road.
Also, if this property is rezoned there will be other requests for this same rezoning on this stretch of Westland between Morrell Rd. and Ebeneezer Rd. It will be difficult to deny further rezoning to medium density residential from low density residential if this rezoning is allowed. PLEASE do not vote for this proposed rezoning.
4-H-23-RZ Steve (37920), March 23, 2023 at 6:39 PM
We attended their meeting tonight and they said the deal is already done. They have signed up with Helen Ross center to use this as a drug and alcohol rehab facility. Why was this approved?
To be clear: You now have a drug rehab facility next to your grade school.
4-B-23-DP Kelly (37918), March 24, 2023 at 12:08 PM
My family has been at this house since 2000. When we bought it they told us the land behind us is a PRESERVE and can’t be developed on. That is one of the main reasons we bought here. It makes me so sad and upset that builders want to destroy this beautiful land and cut it all down to make a buck! That’s not my only concern, the DRAINAGE in our subdivision is not the best it clogs up and if you added more houses and uproot all these trees it’s gonna be a awful mess. Also the TRAFFIC on RIFLE RANGE is already heavily trafficked and the light at Maynardville Pk barely can handle it. Please please consider on KEEPING THIS LAND A PRESERVE. Concerned Citizen
4-L-23-SP David (37919), March 25, 2023 at 9:21 AM
My real concern is the added traffic. I had trouble getting out of our entry yesterday from Highland Point while pulling my small fishing boat because traffic coming from both directions was heavy! That is especially true for traffic coming from the West as they are coming around that slight corner at a fast rate. You cannot see traffic coming from that direction until they are pretty close! There is an accident waiting to happen. Certainly, folks coming out from the proposed new development will experience even more anxiety due to where the entry will be! The traffic has increased significantly recently due to the new apartments and the new subdivision put in just west of Highland Point (towards Ebenezer Rd.). Has anyone done any studies/projections for the added traffic if these townhomes are built?
I received notecard today in the mail regarding the proposal. We do not want Taco Bell almost directly behind our home. On behalf of Westwood neighborhood and century court, this space on Kingston pike is visible from my back yard. It is right beside the greenway. It is right beside my home with no buffer for smells/etc which will travel from the kitchen. Please do not rezone this space.
Additionally, to my previous comments. Changing this location from commercial to almost a 24/7 drive through this is much different use of this land. Taco Bell being open 7a-4a typically is going to be disruptive and increase traffic into late hours of the night.
-Westwood neighborhood. My home is [REDACTED]. Location visible from my back porch.
2-SB-23-C Bruce (37914), March 25, 2023 at 11:27 PM
As a concerned citizen, I am deeply worried about the amount of traffic on Buffat Mills. The area is used as an access point to the North East community, but it is located on a blind curve and hill. This poses a serious risk to drivers, pedestrians, and anyone else who uses this road.
In case of an emergency, it would be futile to send an ambulance through this area due to the high volume of traffic and limited visibility. This could result in delayed response times and potentially fatal consequences for those in need of urgent medical attention.
2-C-23-SU Bruce (37914), March 25, 2023 at 11:30 PM
Buffat Mills is a road that has been an area of concern for many residents in the Northeast community. The amount of traffic that flows through this road every day is alarming, and it poses a serious threat to motorists and pedestrians alike. What's even more worrying is the fact that the area for access to the Northeast community is on a blind curve and blind hill, which means that drivers cannot see what lies ahead until they are almost upon it.
This situation presents a significant safety risk not only to drivers but also to anyone who might need emergency medical attention. In case of an accident or health emergency, first responders such as ambulances would have a hard time navigating through such challenging terrain. Therefore, having an ambulance stationed nearby may be of no use if they cannot get to their destination fast enough.
The road for this project is not wide enough for that many additional houses. Also I am concerned the increased traffic will add an increased danger to the children that live on the block. Tindells Builders Supply already has employees using this road. Please don't re zone this property.
Why would you approve an alcohol and drug rehabilitation center on the same property, or within 150 yards of a grammar school. It doesn’t make any sense. My wife and I have grandchildren at this school , and there are plenty of other places this could be located
general Evelyn (37919), March 28, 2023 at 12:50 PM
Downtown Parking:
I am concerned about limited parking in downtown Knoxville. If developers are allowed to build businesses and residences that bring people downtown, there should be simultaneous plans to add parking space.
Two examples come to my mind. I attend a very active downtown church that is getting squeezed out of parking access by proposed new development. Also, the new baseball stadium should have new parking planned nearby.
4-L-23-SP Robert (37919), March 28, 2023 at 2:35 PM
I am the president of the Highland Point HOA which has 80 dwellings and about 140 residents. The residents of our HOA that I have talked with are not in favor of increasing the allowed zoning density of the subject properties from 8 DU's/acre to 12 DU's/acre. Aside from the increased traffic that this development will contribute to Westland Drive, a density of 12 DU's/acre would make this zoning an outlier in the area. Highland Point is only zoned for 7 DU's/acre, and we are the highest in the neighborhood but actually fall much lower than 7 DU's/acre. Other condo associations are zoned for less than 5 DU's/acre and most of our area is zoned RA.
Thank you for weighing the input of the Highland Point HOA in making your decision on this zoning change.
Our street, 30 mph, is so crowded now on rush hours, weekends and holidays.
The other side of the road in front of me, front of 7814 Westland Drive, is washing out from the pressure of the massive Dump trucks that have overused this road in the past year.
Too much traffic now, please save our neighborhood.
4-C-23-SP Patti (37932), March 28, 2023 at 4:38 PM
Knoxville Planning Commission
Questions for Each of Members
1. Have you driven on very dangerous North Campbell Station Rd from I-40 to Hardin Valley Rd
2. Have you noticed potholes, litter and absolutely no shoulders on either side of the road?
3. Have you noticed the inherent danger from to many to count side roads accessing North Campbell Station from subdivisions, trailer park, and apartment complexes?
4. Have you noticed the heavy truck traffic and the speeding vehicles?
5. Have you noticed the heavy traffic at Hardin Valley?
6. Have you noticed the ONE outlet for hundreds if not thousands of persons needing to turn Right onto North Campbell Station at FRETZ RD.
Enough is enough.
Please, if you are continuing to approve any and every builder request with minimal accountability from the builders, please provide City / County services to address the poor and VERY dangerous condition at this Fretz outlet and on North Campbell Station Road.
4-H-23-RZ Michael (37920), March 29, 2023 at 10:33 AM
This rezoning and adding a drug rehab facility that close to an elementary school is ridiculous. It seems as though the city wants South Knoxville to thrive by building the urban wilderness and all the new businesses and apartments on Sevier Ave. This will drive people away instead of bringing them in. Not to mention the effect that this will have on the elderly living at the South High Assisted living facility. They will be uprooted from their homes and this will be a burden on them and their families. This is not a good look for South Knoxville as the city has already built a homeless shelter across Chapman Hwy in the old school building . Residents cant go to Wiegels, Walgreens Krogers or any other business in peace because of the homeless hanging around, laying on the sidewalks and begging for money. That is a different issue all together but South Knoxville has enough with all that going on.
4-U-23-RZ Lisa (37919), March 29, 2023 at 11:21 AM
This is my third submission of comments because I continue to acquire more information. There is not an existing planned development on the stretch of road from Morrell to Ebeneezer with zoning approval of more than 8 units per acre. Highland Point Condominiums at Westland has the greatest density with 7 units per acre and stretches from Westland to Nubbin Ridge Road which runs parallel to Westland. It is the only development with medium density of dwelling units.
I have confirmed that this property being considered for rezoning is zoned for K-5th Rocky Hill School, a small school. Westland Drive cannot support this density of population. Please vote no on this rezoning effort and any further applications for medium density planned development on this stretch of road.
Eight units per acre is really too many but my understanding is that this rezoning has already been approved.
The zoning on Westland Drive should be restricted to 1 to 5 units per acre.
4-H-23-RZ Mary (37920), March 29, 2023 at 12:41 PM
Hopefully our elected city officials realize the damage a rehab center could do to this neighborhood, Dogwood Elementary, nearby parks and new businesses. I understand that McNabb probably has the biggest pockets and can offer the most money to buy the property, so they want to try for a rezone. Please don't let big money rule South Knoxville as it has for so long. Surely another alternative use for the building will come along.
4-L-23-RZ Ashley (37931), March 29, 2023 at 2:36 PM
I just submitted a request to speak. I checked that I am against. What I am against is multi family units. The land is an L shape around our home and in front of a school, next to a church, and partially on top of an underground spring. I wasn't sure if there needed to be clarity in that. Thank you so much. I hope you are having a great day.
I, Amy Valentine do not support the proposed private gun range because I have a daughter that is almost autistic and she does not like big loud noises and the place I live is quiet and peaceful for me and everyone around me! I want to keep peace and quiet!
4-T-23-RZ Teresa (37938), March 29, 2023 at 5:04 PM
The road is not wide enough to accommodate for the traffic we already have. You have to pull over into someone's property to allow someone to drive through and this is dangerous for property and children. There is a 15 mph speed limit sign and people that use the road as a drive through drive faster than 15 miles per hour through the narrow road. Families in the neighborhood walk daily with children and it would be unsafe to have more traffic. This is a quiet neighborhood and we need to keep it that way. I oppose rezoning the property.
4-H-23-RZ Shauna (37912), March 30, 2023 at 9:51 AM
Expanding the capacity of residential treatment for substance use disorders is an investment in community health. It will reduce homelessness, keep families together, and save lives. I certainly understand the hesitation from neighbors. I am confident having worked in residential treatment programs before, they can operate successfully without disrupting the community. Part of the care that goes into creating a soothing atmosphere for a treatment center will be beautiful landscaping, so they might turn out to be great neighbors!
4-U-23-RZ Chris (37939), March 30, 2023 at 9:55 AM
I own the property directly behind the proposed development. I am all for the increase in density for this area. With the lack of current inventory of affordable housing in the area, the increase in density would be welcome. There is a definite lack of housing supply in this market and Knox County has a great opportunity of solving this issue by increasing density and providing the general public with an opportunity to own, rather than rent. The City of Knoxville has made great strides in order to increase density and Knox County should follow suit. Instead of old dilapidated houses, or lots with scrub brush on them, there will be single family residences with a nice modern aesthetic. The number of units added on these lots would NOT make a noticeable difference on Westland compared to the traffic added from 324 units from Crescent Ebenezer. This project is good for the general public.
As someone who is directly impacted by this project, I would like to express my opinion in favor of the increased density in this area.